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"with her or with Jeff or with Ghislaine"

"I'm just trying one more thing since we're here, sir"

"I don't know if it said Zorro Ranch or he said- he- "she's in Jeffrey's little black book""

"I would come down whatever, heading towards Stanley, turn into the dr- entrance"

"She was already in the home"

"would say, 'reflexology session- Ghislaine,' and so if went back and looked, I would see Jeffrey was in there"

"it'd be, 'reflexology for thirty-five min- uh, forty-five minutes,' to Jeffrey"

"how many times would you say you were out at the ranch between '99 and '08? ... Maybe thirty? In nine years."

"he asked one of his massage therapists to come down"

"do reflexology very rarely, but that's what I did at Zorro Ranch since, uh- for thirty-five years. Since 1984."

"I was introduced to go over there as a reflexologist by a woman name dI [REDACTED]"

"the case may be and yeah, we'll make- we'll make better arrangements next time"

"I don't remember how long she was their massage therapist"

"she's in Jeffrey's little black book"

"I was waiting in that room off the kitchen, where then they arrived as I'm waiting for Ghislaine, to work on Ghislaine"

"that one woman who was his massage therapist"

"it was- one of the housekeepers would say, 'they're coming into town,' or, 'she's coming into town early, and who- are you- when are you available 'ca"

"I think it's, like, three times I saw Jeffrey"

"she managed his world in the sense of their home"

"they had the New York home, the, um, Zorro Ranch"

"they had the New York home"

"if Jeffrey wanted the treatment a few times, that's when it- it was always f- down in the d- in the, uh, den. Library."

"if I work on Ghislaine... if it was in the library... if she was upstairs and she wanted me to work on her up in her bedroom"

"Ghislaine wanted her feet work- worked on... I was the reflexologist"

"I would just work on his feet"

"the reason why she originally got in touch with me is because Ghislaine wanted her feet work- worked on"

"She did send me an email saying, "look at- look what's going on with Jeffrey.""

"being in their home... house of fifty- fifty thousand square foot house"

"I know the, uh, the feds are holding him. They didn't - they denied him bail, uh, so they're holding him there in New York"

"other than going in, doing my work, and leaving"

"I would work on his feet"

"I wasn't up- supposed to go in any other part of the house... you can go upstairs now to Ghislaine's bedroom"

"What did eventually make you stop going out there? Pretty much the fact that- when I found that- out what was going on"

"Zorro Ranch would pay me. By check? Yes. Or cash."

"my understanding, back then, I think that they'd been together for thirteen years, or whatever, and I think she sort of presented that she- she would "

"she sort of presented that she- she would manage his properties... how many times would you say you were out at the ranch"

"She was, I think, a massage therapist for them. She was also a peer, she's a colleague"

"Ghislaine Maxwell wanted her feet worked on and so, I'm the reflexologist that they hired. I think the first, uh, first treatment was probably in 1999"

"Jeffrey, I worked probably three times on from `99 to 2008."

"we are looking into some things that went on at Zorro Ranch... you might be familiar with the ranch and with Jeff Epstein"

"Outside of the pay that you received for the reflexology, were you ever given any other money?"

"I don't remember how long she was their massage therapist"

"who I think was the driver or who worked for- who was one of their staff"

"whoever the housekeepers were, who had managed their world"

"he either owned an island or he had a big home in the Caribbean"

"the massage therapist... I got the impression that she flew with them, that they brought her with him"

"they wanted me to sign a contract that anything I saw... if you see anything going on here you have to keep it private"

"other than going in, doing my work, and leaving, that- that there- that I'm- kind of a benign, um- whatever, involved person."

"because of Ghislaine and the whole involvement, if she's gonna go to jail"

"the staff lived on the property? Yes."